Talk:Creating a module - Revision history

Eshme: /* Script Bug still there? */

2010-02-01T23:21:09Z

‎Script Bug still there?

Eshme at 17:37, 1 February 2010

2010-02-01T17:37:24Z

BryanDerksen: /* Script Bug still there? */ An explanation for this bug's symptoms. At least as far as I understand it.

2010-02-01T17:25:26Z

‎Script Bug still there?: An explanation for this bug's symptoms. At least as far as I understand it.

Eshme at 08:51, 30 January 2010

2010-01-30T08:51:45Z

FollowTheGourd: adding to the list

2010-01-23T22:59:51Z

adding to the list

FollowTheGourd: /* minor clarification */

2010-01-23T22:55:29Z

‎minor clarification

FollowTheGourd: Areas that need more information

2010-01-23T22:50:07Z

Areas that need more information

Proleric1 at 10:02, 4 January 2010

2010-01-04T10:02:17Z

Lothinator: Blanked the page

2009-11-14T02:45:21Z

Blanked the page

Lothinator at 02:36, 14 November 2009

2009-11-14T02:36:39Z

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	::Probably you are right, i am not so far yet. If it avoids some problems maybe it would help it said somewhere what exactly "a blank script with an empty main function" is. [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 17:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)		::Probably you are right, i am not so far yet. If it avoids some problems maybe it would help it said somewhere what exactly "a blank script with an empty main function" is. [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 17:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:::Ah well the module_core thing is right yes. It causes double stuffs. There was an update on http://dragonagemodding.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/beware-the-dangers-of-module_core/ which sais that an empty script isnt actually needed, as a "none" option is available. Probably i will reformat this thing later then [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 23:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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	:If the addin doesn't do anything with any module events it doesn't need a module script. As I understand it if you've got multiple addins active and they all have module scripts, every time a module event is fired ''all'' of the module scripts will be run to handle it. For example, the cause of the attribute doubling is because there's code in module_core that says "when there's an EVENT_TYPE_PLAYERLEVELUP event give the player 3 more attribute points." If there are two copies of module_core active (one from the original campaign module and one from an addin to it) this code gets run twice each time the EVENT_TYPE_PLAYERLEVELUP event fires. The slowdowns are probably caused by similar duplication of effort - I don't know everything that module_core does offhand. [[User:BryanDerksen\|BryanDerksen]] 17:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)		:If the addin doesn't do anything with any module events it doesn't need a module script. As I understand it if you've got multiple addins active and they all have module scripts, every time a module event is fired ''all'' of the module scripts will be run to handle it. For example, the cause of the attribute doubling is because there's code in module_core that says "when there's an EVENT_TYPE_PLAYERLEVELUP event give the player 3 more attribute points." If there are two copies of module_core active (one from the original campaign module and one from an addin to it) this code gets run twice each time the EVENT_TYPE_PLAYERLEVELUP event fires. The slowdowns are probably caused by similar duplication of effort - I don't know everything that module_core does offhand. [[User:BryanDerksen\|BryanDerksen]] 17:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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		+	::Probably you are right, i am not so far yet. If it avoids some problems maybe it would help it said somewhere what exactly "a blank script with an empty main function" is. [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 17:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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	Anyone care to provide a link? I have found this to be not the case. Everything works. The bioware made Storage chest uses a empty field. Some mods i downloaded use an empty field and they all work. Scripts scare me. [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 08:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)		Anyone care to provide a link? I have found this to be not the case. Everything works. The bioware made Storage chest uses a empty field. Some mods i downloaded use an empty field and they all work. Scripts scare me. [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 08:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:If the addin doesn't do anything with any module events it doesn't need a module script. As I understand it if you've got multiple addins active and they all have module scripts, every time a module event is fired ''all'' of the module scripts will be run to handle it. For example, the cause of the attribute doubling is because there's code in module_core that says "when there's an EVENT_TYPE_PLAYERLEVELUP event give the player 3 more attribute points." If there are two copies of module_core active (one from the original campaign module and one from an addin to it) this code gets run twice each time the EVENT_TYPE_PLAYERLEVELUP event fires. The slowdowns are probably caused by similar duplication of effort - I don't know everything that module_core does offhand. [[User:BryanDerksen\|BryanDerksen]] 17:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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		+	== Script Bug still there? ==
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		+	*''Note that as of toolset version 1.01 and game version 1.02b, you should NOT use "module_core" as the script (as found in module properties) for an add-in that extends an existing module, otherwise you will encounter issues that may include slow-downs during conversations and attribute allocation. The exact cause of these issues is not yet known, but using a blank script with an empty main function will eliminate these issues. ''
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		+	Anyone care to provide a link? I have found this to be not the case. Everything works. The bioware made Storage chest uses a empty field. Some mods i downloaded use an empty field and they all work. Scripts scare me. [[User:Eshme\|Eshme]] 08:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
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	Here are some references to forum posts that may shed some light on the fuzzier parts of modules:		Here are some references to forum posts that may shed some light on the fuzzier parts of modules:
	* Module properties hierarchy with respect to [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/71/index/441232 checking single-player plot flags from an addin].		* Module properties hierarchy with respect to [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/71/index/441232 checking single-player plot flags from an addin].

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 * Module properties hierarchy with respect to [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/71/index/441232 checking single-player plot flags from an addin].
 * Module vs Owner Module and so on: [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/8/index/535651]
 * ''More as I dig it up...''

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	* ''More as I dig it up...''		* ''More as I dig it up...''

−	I haven't put them into the main article since I haven't really verified it and I don't want to insert assumptions for fact. --[[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 22:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)	+	I haven't put them into the main article since I haven't really verified it and I don't want to insert my assumptions for fact. --[[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 22:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

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		+	Here are some references to forum posts that may shed some light on the fuzzier parts of modules:
		+	* Module properties hierarchy with respect to [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/71/index/441232 checking single-player plot flags from an addin].
		+	* Module vs Owner Module and so on: [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/8/index/535651]
		+	* ''More as I dig it up...''
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		+	I haven't put them into the main article since I haven't really verified it and I don't want to insert assumptions for fact. --[[User:FollowTheGourd\|FollowTheGourd]] 22:50, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
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	By agreement with AmstradHero, a section was added on creating a standalone module.		By agreement with AmstradHero, a section was added on creating a standalone module.

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−	+	By agreement with AmstradHero, a section was added on creating a standalone module.

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−	Wow, there are a lot of options in creating a module that aren't documented here. Also what this says to do isn't even on the menu that comes up when you create a module! This reads like it was written for a different version of the editor, it needs updated badly.	+
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	Wow, there are a lot of options in creating a module that aren't documented here. Also what this says to do isn't even on the menu that comes up when you create a module! This reads like it was written for a different version of the editor, it needs updated badly.		Wow, there are a lot of options in creating a module that aren't documented here. Also what this says to do isn't even on the menu that comes up when you create a module! This reads like it was written for a different version of the editor, it needs updated badly.
		+	-- Lothinator 11/13/09